Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
12-22-2006, 05:29 PM
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Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
For those who have not been following Shon's thread,
http://www.psychodogstudios.com/foru...ead.php?t=4765
he has come up with a fix to the armor/clothing issue in Better Clothes, and we have been working together to get a new release out, here is the release. (I have also added a pair of male and female underwear in the tradehouse in Seyda Neen in the locked storage room both are sitting on the crate...enjoy.
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Better Clothes Version 1.0
*** Description ***
Better Clothes replaces most of the default clothing from the standard Morrowind game with new non-segmented versions designed to work with Better Bodies. This improves the visual appearance of most items of clothing that are available in stores, and worn by NPCs, and in your inventory.
Better Clothes is a “replacer,” and we have tried our best to remain as close as possible to the original look of the clothing, while providing completely redone meshes and textures. In some instances, however, a degree of artistic license was taken by the individual artists. We have tried to stay as close as possible to the style of the original Morrowind clothing, so that it is still recognizable. but we feel that any such changes fit well with the overall style of the game.
For those familiar with the TES Editor, Better Clothes also frees up several ‘body slots.’ These include the Left Foot, the Left Ankle, the Left Knee, and the Left Upper Leg. Essentially, this means that you can now wear pants and custom “non-hiding” Better Bodies compatible clothing at the same time.
This mod fully supports the Morrowind clothing slot system, so armor can be worn over clothing without completely obscuring or replacing it. This also means that alternative bodies that aren’t based on Better Bodies, such as custom race mods, are also supported so long as they follow the Better Bodies scheme of having free left leg body slots.
Since the existing robes do not cause problems with Better Bodies, and because there were plenty of existing robe replacers created by the community, it was decided that additional work on robes was not necessary. (We suggest using Canadian Ice’s excellent robe replacer found here) http://canadianice.ufrealms.net/Morrowind/Index.html
It was also decided that replacing armor would be outside the scope of this project. Finally, not every item of clothing has been completed. A detailed list of what has been replaced is available in the section below.
*** Requirements ***
- Morrowind – Expansions are not required
- Better Bodies v2.1 to v2.2
A beast replacer, such as the following, is also highly recommended (in alphabetical order by creator):
- Sabregirl’s “Better Bodies for Beasts” (Argonians and Khajiit)
http://www.msu.edu/%7Ekindersa/khajiit.html
- Shon's "New Argonian Bodies" (Argonians only – use in conjunction with one of the other two)
http://www.liztail.com/view_project.php?prj_id=2
- Slof’s "Better Beasts" (Argonians and Khajiit)
http://www.slofshive.co.uk/index.php...id=50wonmx8w4k
*** Installation ***
Extract or drag and drop using an unzip tool such as WinRAR or ZipGenius into your “…Morrowind/Data Files” folder. I have included 2 separate esp files
Better Clothes_v1.0.esp
Better Clothes_v1.0_nac.esp (no argonian change)
If you do not wish to use the tailoring kit and do not wish the shirts to change to male for the Argonians then use the "Better Clothes_v1.0_nac.esp" without the other, so only use one the esp files at any time.
*** What is Replaced ***
Clothing from the Original Morrowind:
- 18 of the 36 shirts are completely replaced
- The other 18 shirts have their chest parts replaced with versions that bend more consistently with Better Bodies and have minor alterations to reduce clipping.
- All of the pants, shoes, and skirts are completely replaced.
Clothing from the Tribunal Expansion:
- 2 pairs of pants are completely replaced and will be release in a separate version.
*** New Features in this Release ***
- Made it possible to wear clothing under armor while still seeing exposed clothing parts with the armor.
- Made it possible to use this mod in combination with some alternative non-BB bodies.
- Re-weighted the 18 non-replaced shirt torsos to reduce clipping with Better Bodies and mods such as Shon’s New Argonian Bodies.
- Made it possible to keep the Argonians from being given breasts by this mod.
- A pair of male and female underwear has been added. It can be found in the trade house in the locked storeroom on some crates.
*** Known Bugs and Issues ****
- There are currently no known bugs in this mod. It has been cleaned with TESTool and does not make any changes to NPC that would cause doubling of any kind.
- Mods such as Morrowind Comes Alive which add their own clothing meshes and assignments will not have their clothes replaced by this mod.
- Marah’s Blouse has a special “non-hiding” female version that prevents the male version from having enough clothing slots to support armor mixing. However, the Argonian version of this shirt does support armor mixing.
- The glass and ebony boots will clip slightly with pants which use the ‘gait’ pants mesh with the billowy part at the bottom of the leg. This could not be corrected without straightening out the pants and destroying their individuality, so if this bothers you, you will need to wear a pair of straight pants with these boots.
*** Argonian-Awareness Instructions***
Starting with version 1.0, Better Clothes includes the option to keep your Argonians from growing breasts due to enabling the mod. If you use a beast replacer that gives Argonians breasts intentionally, you can simply ignore these new features and choose to enable the ESP file marked “nac” for “No Argonian Change.”
For those of you who want to keep your Argonians as they were in the original game, follow the steps below. This applies whether or not your character is an Argonian as the NPCs are also affected.
1) Setup (for everyone)
The first thing you need to do is find the nearest seller of clothing and talk to them. This is defined as an NPC with the “Clothier,” “Trader Service,” or “Pawnbroker” class. Talking to them will add the “tailoring kit” and “clothing fit” dialog topics to all characters in the game, and will start a script that fixes the shirts on the 20 female Argonian NPCs that wear them in the standard game. The message might seem a little out of place, but doing it this way allows us to support the original Morrowind, as start scripts were added by Tribunal.
2) The Tailoring Kit (for female characters only)
The tailoring kit is a weightless item that you can get for free from the clothes sellers mentioned above by talking to them and clicking the “tailoring kit” topic. The tailoring kit is used to fix clothing on your own character to have the correct shape based on race. Whether or not your character is an Argonian, you may end up with clothing of the wrong type (breasts or no breasts) for various reasons, and equipping the tailoring kit will fix all such BC clothing in your inventory.
If you lose your tailoring kit, you can get another one from anyone who likes you enough. Argonian NPCs are especially willing to give out tailoring kits to fellow Argonians.
3) Fixing the Clothing on NPCs (For everyone)
For various reasons, you may run into female NPCs that have wrong-looking shirts. They may be from a mod or from one of the expansions, or you may have passed them the wrong type of shirt during a bartering transaction. Whatever the reason, if the problem is caused by a piece of BC clothing, you can fix it simply by talking to them and clicking the “clothing fit” topic. This will cause their clothes to instantly swap to the correct version for their race.
***Credits***
Creators (in alphabetical order):
Calishlan (textures) shirts, pants, shoes, skirts
Dereko (meshes) pants conversion, shoes, underwear (Project Coordinator)
Greybeard (physiqueing) shirts (Texture Mapping assistance)
Neuman (original pants)
NioLiv meshes (all Skirts, Shirts) (texture mapping)
Shon (mesh editing for armor and alternate body compatibility)(scripting)
Special thanks to:
Korana - textures 2 shoe textures common1 and common2,
Sierre (original skirts)
Silaria (Meshes original Shirts)
And of course
Fariel, Neuman, Zenorf, and the other contributers at Psychodog Studios for the BB mod, without which none of this would have been possible.
***Permission Policy***
If you wish to ask for permission to use any part of this mod, please ask the individual artist responsible for the resources you wish you to use.
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Screenshots can be viewed here
Clothing Screenshots {changed my website about so updated this link ~ Cali}
Better Clothes V1.1 Download
http://www.psychodogstudios.com/betterclothes/
Hopefully as soon as Neuman contacts me we can get this linked to the psychodog studios site and I'll include an installer version as well, until then I'll have to host the file. Credit goes to of course all the creators...Let me know of any problems.
Last edited by Calislahn : 05-13-2008 at 07:41 AM.
Reason: change screenshot link
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12-22-2006, 05:57 PM
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Huzzah! =D
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12-22-2006, 07:15 PM
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Woot! Tribunal and Bloodmoon bits added too?
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12-22-2006, 07:35 PM
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Woot! Tribunal and Bloodmoon bits added too?
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Nope, there was only 1 tribunal pant and 4 bloodmoon pants done, if I recall, however, I suppose I could include those with 2 seperate esps. So I'll probably release those with the installer and a new rar file then. Trouble is right now I don't have the space for both files, so I'll have to wait until I can get it uploaded to psychodog's.
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12-22-2006, 07:41 PM
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Hi there, well done for getting this far, for a while it was looking like BC would never get finished. So thanks to Shon for putting in so much time and effort and solving those tricky problems.
Firstly though a technical issue. After installing the new release, when entering Arrile's Trade house I get these two error messages:
TES3Stream Warning: Model "Meshes\BC\Irdgcom_GND.NIF" tex not found "c;\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\Data Files\Textures\BC\Irdgcom.dds"!
Continue running executable?
Yes No
Then after clicking yes:
Texture Load Error!: c;\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\Data Files\Textures\BC\Irdgcom.dds
Continue running executable?
Yes No
Obviously it's not loading the textures for the two new thongs dereko put in there, coz they appear on the crate as just models with plain grey textures. And if I pick one up and equip it it crashes to the desktop. I know why it is doing this though, it's because my install of Morrowind is not in the default location, it's in c;\Games\Morrowind instead. But nothing else assumes you have Morrowind in the default location so why should these two thongs?
Second an opinion, which I'm sure some others must share. I like using Slof's Better Beasts, no offense to Shon's Argonian, which is great work, but I like the different colour's Slof used (red skin for the males and green for the females) plus the new heads. And I do use the version with breasts, so for me and anyone else who does the same, the whole separate argonian shirts and tailoring kit thing isn't neccessary, and it just seems a bit wierd to me that the first thing Arrile, (or which ever trader you go to first) says to you is your clothes don't fit, especially if you're non argonian and they do. Plus if you are using Slof's there's the fact that the Argonian NPCs that do wear shirts (like Hul in Balmora), appear to have had mastectomies.
I just think it would be better if there was another version released which doesn't have the separtes argonian shirts and tailoring kit. Would it be too much trouble to take the feature out? Isn't it just a case of removing the script that causes the changes? You could call the other version 'Slof's Boob Version' if you like.
Thanks in advance.
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12-22-2006, 07:43 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
If only I still played Morrowind, Great job, good to see this finally being released.
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12-22-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Ice man,
If you do not have the game installed in the default directory, then the pathway for the textures will be confused the path for those 2 textures are C program files\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\Textures\BC. You don't have to reinstall your game into the default space but you'd have to have a folder with the textures in it that has that path.
Regarding the Argonian thing, Slofs will still work and does not conflict, when you take the shirt off you'll get the slof body. However if I get enough requests I will make a version without the tailoring kit and scripts.
If you want a quick way to deactivate it just go into the editor and delete the 3 greetings under greeting1 (just under the "you have violated your oath of silence greeting") and save the esp, then start your game
Last edited by dereko1 : 12-22-2006 at 08:07 PM.
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12-22-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
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Originally Posted by dereko1
Ice man,
Regarding the Argonian thing, Slofs will still work and does not conflict, when you take the shirt off you'll get the slof body. However if I get enough requests I will make a version without the tailoring kit and scripts.
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Consider this another request for it then
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12-22-2006, 08:37 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Due to the numerous requests, I've included a second esp file called
Better Clothes_v1.0_nac.esp (no argonian change) just use this one instead of the other and the Argonian shirts will not be changed, all topics, scripts, and items removed in the esp and cleaned in testool.
just redownload again
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12-22-2006, 08:43 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Yay! Thanks Dereko Oh and iirc there wheren't a terribly large number of clothes specific to Tribunal and Bloodmoon to begin with... But they where scattered throughout Morrowind and they look weird when you run into them and they're not replaced 
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12-22-2006, 09:16 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
If I understand Your saying you see Bloodmoon and Tribunal clothing while just running around Morrowind? It's been so long since I played I can't remember if there is Bloodmoon and tribunal clothing on the Morrowind Island when you install the addons. Except of course for the Dark brotherhood armor when they attack. Could be from mods too. Not sure what your saying though.
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12-22-2006, 09:52 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Thanks Dereko, consider me and the rest of the world very happy with this release. Oh and in case everyone forgot, it's christmas. Could this have come at a better time?
Merry Christmas everyone 
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12-22-2006, 10:59 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Just want to clear up some things that Dereko didn't touch on:
This release does not add any new shirts. The non-replaced shirts you see all over the game probably aren'tTribunal shirts, because half of the the original shirts were never finished by the original shirt artist and are not replaced. 18 of the original Morrowind shirts are replaced and 18 are not. Dereko decided to call this release 1.0, not because it is "finished," but because it is unlikely that any more work will ever be done on it.
I think that this part of the description is misleading and should probably be changed to reflect that:
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This mod replaces ALL the ingame clothing to more realistic clothing to fit the better bodies mod. This will replace all clothing bought in stores as well as on npcs and gaurds and on your character.
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My contributions to this release were:
* Making it possible to wear shirts under armor and see parts showing through.
* Making it possible to use alternative bodies such as my Argonians or the Mog*Mod with Better Clothes.
* Re-weighting the non-replaced shirt torsos to reduce clipping with Better Bodies and my Argoninans (In other words, the waists should now line up even on segmented shirts)
* Making it possible to keep the Argonians from being given breasts by this mod.
On the last point, to sum up the discussion from the WIP thread, we were already considering two versions. I theorized that no one would be bothered, whether they had breasts on the naked bodies or not, if the 20 Argonian female NPCs that wear shirts were not given ones with busts as long as their character's clothing was not replaced and no clipping with the breasts was caused by those shirts. I figured it would be no different from seeing the many shirts, as I mentioned above, that are not replaced and thus have no busts for any race.
Dereko suggested that people would still complain, though, so I suggested he make two versions. Instead, though, he decided to test the waters to see if people would really complain that much because of the factors I mentioned. Basically, because having two versions makes more work for him so it would be easier if there was just one.
In other words, I tried to make it as optional as possible in one version, but if people demand that every possible NPC show indications of breasts, then the best way to do that is to have two versions. Otherwise if we tried to build the choice into the one version the startup dialog that initializes the scripts would be much more out of character than it already is. "Do you prefer your Argonians with breasts or without?" =x
So it had nothing to do with trying to force anyone to use my mod or force people not to use the version of Slof's mod that gives them breasts.
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12-22-2006, 11:11 PM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
Oh, and for people who do want to use the tailoring kit, here are the detailed instructions I posted on The Elder Scrolls Forum in the release thread for my Argonian mod:
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With this release, you can now use my 1.5 version Argonians with Better Clothes, and there are also scripts to allow you to optionally swap your shirts for Argonian versions that don't have breasts for females, and also to swap NPCs you meet with odd looking shirts as well.
To use them:
1) Visit the nearest Clothier, Trader, or Pawnbroker and talk to them. They will say something about tailoring kits and the way your clothing fits.
2) Ask them about "tailoring kit," they will give you a tailoring kit item for free.
3) Equip the tailoring kit on your character at any time to:
If you are an Argonian: swap all the clothing in your inventory for equivalent Argonian versions that do not give females breasts.
If you are not Argonian: swap any Argonian clothing you may have picked up from an Argonian back to the version that does have breasts.
Note that this only works for clothing that is part of Better Clothes.
If you see an Argonian female NPC with breasts, or a non-Argonian female NPC that has none (like if you sell her an Argonian shirt), talk to her about "clothing fit" and she will be fixed. This also only works with clothing that BC replaces.
If you lose your tailoring kit somehow, you can get another one by talking to to a Clothier, Trader, or Pawnbroker, someone with disposition toward you above 60, or, if you are an Argonian, another Argonian with disposition toward you above 25.
Note that if you're using a different mod, and want your Argonian character to keep her breasts, BC will not force any changes to your character. You have to get a tailoring kit and equip it for any changes to your inventory to occur, and no clipping will result either way.
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12-23-2006, 12:16 AM
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Re: Better Clothes Ver 1 Release
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If I understand Your saying you see Bloodmoon and Tribunal clothing while just running around Morrowind? It's been so long since I played I can't remember if there is Bloodmoon and tribunal clothing on the Morrowind Island when you install the addons. Except of course for the Dark brotherhood armor when they attack. Could be from mods too. Not sure what your saying though.
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In honesty I'm not one hundred percent sure myself. But I do seem to recall people mentioning it as a complaint in the beta release thread at ESF. Besides if no other versions are likely to be forthcoming doesn't it make sense to release all of what you've got now anyway?
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